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    I have a questions about weening my toddler from bf sesitively. My dd is 21 months old. I had hoped to nurse her longer and allow her the choice to decide when she was done bf, but i'm needing to resume taking my medicine. I saw my pain specialist the other day (while working at a mental health institute i had a child kick my shoulder out of it's socket, pulling lots of muscles and unfortunatly causing perminate nerve damage) although i've been doing well without my medicine i can no longer feel my fingers and often have trouble lifting my rt arm (i'm rt handed). He says i need to return back to my medicine however, i need to quite bf. Now there are women who take this medicine while pregnant and bf. The medicine use to treat my nerve damage is also use to treat seizures. The main side effect is drowsyness and sometimes slower development. I can see this because it causes forgetfullness in me sometimes. I would rather not expose her to this type of medicine. But she loves to BF. She's still BF about 4 or 5 times through the night. and probably still nurses every 2 hrs during the day, often more if she's unwell or needs to feel more connected. Up until now i haven't discourage this often. However on the occassion if it's right before lunch i'll tell her no she has to wait until after she eats. She becomes hysterical! sometimes crying sooo hard she makes herself gag. I try compassionaltly to console her, i try and distract her with other things but nothing will help her and i've had this go on for 20 min ( i eventually give in and give her the breast)! I'm unsure what to do. I want to continue to allow her to nurse, but i do need to take my medicine as i'm more irritable when i'm in a great deal of pain. I have a while yet before she has to be weaned. i have until around her 2nd b-day before i return back to the dr's. Does anyone have some good literature on how to wean sensitvely with an AP style??

  • #2
    if you really want to continue bfing, have you considered alternatives to the medication, natural pain relief through methods such as chiropractic or accupuncture? you may be able to find enough relief alternatively until you both are ready to wean.


    • #3
      "How Weaning Happens" is a La Leche League published book and is supposed to be good. I've never read it has anyone else out there? Here's a link to it on amazon:

      Sounds like you have about 4 months in which to wean? If that was the case for me, here is what I would do. Though, I have no idea if it would be a good fit for your family. Anyways, I would:

      -month 1: Night wean while letting her nurse as much as she wants during the day.
      -month 2: Schedule all nursing to three specific times of day. e.g. first thing in the morning, afternoon and before bed. Only nurse at these times.
      -months 3 and 4: take away one of the nursing sessions every few weeks until she is weaned.

      Of course, I'd probably have to adjust things as I went along but this would be my initial game plan.

      I've found the most important part of weaning is telling my child what is going on, why and what to expect. I found that when they have been warned of upcoming changes it is much easier on them and me.

      Before I do any weaning I have a little procedure that I follow. For instance, if I'm going to night wean I'd start warning my child 2-3 day before hand. I'd say: "You are going to be learning something new in a few days, you will learn how to go back to sleep without nursing. After our bedtime nurse, nums-nums are going to go to sleep. When you wake up I will give you cuddles and kisses but no num-nums. In the morning num-nums will wake up and we will nurse again." I repeat this little message four or five times a day until the big night!

      I know that you said that the medicine that you want to take is taken by some BFing mothers but that you are not comfortable with it. I decided to take medicine while I was pregnant and BF and I know what a hard decision it is to make either way. I've also learned that it is a tricky and complicated process to figure out if a medicine is safe or not. I'm not sure how much information you have about your medicine but in your situation I'd want to do a little investigation. (Which perhaps you've already done, but since you haven't mentioned it, I'll assume you haven't)

      -Is there any other medicine that could replace the medicine you've used in the past?
      -Has anyone looked up the medicine in a GOOD lactation and drugs manual? e.g. Thomas Hale's "Medications in Mother's Milk?" It will give the drug a hazard rating relative to other drugs as well as a bunch of other EVIDENCE BASED information. You may be able to access this book by calling a La Leche League leader, they usually have a copy.
      -How does the drug act and what is it's half life? It may be possible to greatly minimize the amount of drug your daughter would receive by timing when you take the drug and when you nurse. There may be an alternate drug with the same safetly risks but a shorter half life making it a better choice if you're trying to keep some nursing sessions. How much of the drug actually gets transferred into the breastmilk? etc. etc.
      -Talk to a health care professional who is an expert on the topic of drugs use while pregnant/lactating. I'm Canadian so I can call the "Mother Risk" hotline. I don't know where you live, is there any service like this in your area?

      HTH, keep us posted!


      • #4
        Thanks for the replies guys. I live in Canada too and have called Mother Risk. Unfortunatly since the medicine is new they didn't really have a lot on file about it. I have tried many homeopathic remedies and have found them unsuccessful to date. Often increasing my pain instead of helping me manage it. I do continually search for new ways to help me such as the new book "yoga for chronic pain" i just purchased. I meditate regularly and this has been helpful as well. however, when the pain is really bad (eg. i rolled onto my shoulder while sleeping and upon awakening discovered it has gradually dislocated throught the night and pinched the nerve for several hours )i struggle to function (often calling in family support to help me get laundry, dishes, etc). It's on these days i would like to be able to take something to help me manage and fear doing so for nursing.

        I have started/going to do a couple things. I'm getting a hold of my gp to see if he can refer me to another pain specialist who is more supportive of my BF. however living in a community that disagrees with bf after a year i doubt he will be co-operative with this.
        As far as the weaning goes i'm kinda doing it slightly backwards. I've started reducing her daytime feedings but increasing the cuddles and kisses. I've been trying to keep her very active and interested throughout the day (new x-mas presents are making this easy) and when these don't work offering her beverages such as homo milk, veggie juice, water, etc. that she is allowed to pull out of the fridge herself. so far this seems to be reducing the nursing to going to sleep and night time nursing. I discovered quite by accident that if she wakes up during the night i can nurse her for a little bit and then i tell her "mommy will be right back i have to go potty" often by the time i return to the room she's fallen back asleep and sometimes she'll just roll away and i don't even have to leave. I'm hoping that by gradually reducing the amount of time she nurses before telling her this and than the less she'll need me to help her return back to sleep.
        I'm figuring this way there is no crying and the end result will hopefully be the same. And if my gp transfers me to another pain specialist who will support my BF than i won't have to continue and can allow her the choice of when she wants to stop